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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:22 PM
is it the same ?
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Hmmm
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Lord Tristan ↩️
Reply to: i don't know, but as i've been making demonic sigil before destroying them then
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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:22 PM
does tulpa has different sigil ?
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no no I'm looking for custom sigils and stuff for protections
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Lord Tristan ↩️
Reply to: is it the same ?
5:22 PM
since u can make customs
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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:22 PM
oh okay
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I believe you can...
5:23 PM
since apparently people did
5:23 PM
ahhhh wiki how
5:23 PM
ty for existing
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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:23 PM
my pleasureee
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i'm sorry can't help much 😭
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Ik a lot of ppl dk
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Kit might tbh
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but she doesn't use dms
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I remember chiseling(sort of) norse runes onto some (not on earth) bottles before and they acted great as a sort of "protection liquid"
5:26 PM
I talked about it to a person who has a rune in their pfp
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yeah it says june 2023
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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:27 PM
thankyou 😭
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Khaos
I remember chiseling(sort of) norse runes onto some (not on earth) bottles before and they acted great as a sort of "protection liquid"
Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:27 PM
sound hardd
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it was tbh
5:28 PM
I got help on making that tbh
5:28 PM
don't know how to make sigils? don't worry scrap your knowledge together and hope for the best
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clearly a western-inspired writing system, left to right top to bottom like any european language, punctuation like any european language,
5:29 PM
probably has like a 1:1 letter by letter connection to english or something
5:29 PM
find the most popular character, replace it with 'e', find the second most popular character, replace it with 'a', and so on...
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wikihow is helping but now i'll need designs...
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Khaos ↩️
Reply to: don't know how to make sigils? don't worry scrap your knowledge together and hope for the best
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Khaos
don't know how to make sigils? don't worry scrap your knowledge together and hope for the best
Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:29 PM
what does sigil do on tulpa?
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Sigils have many uses
5:30 PM
they are related to intent
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so u can't define them as one thing
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Deleted User 6/15/2023 5:30 PM
okayy
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/15/2023 5:31 PM
@Deleted User - jump yes i can
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Oki so wiki how is telling me how to activate a sigil and I know but can't burn stuff here so doing it somewhere else.
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Gotta cleanse naughty misty...
5:57 PM
he has too much bad energies + unwanted energies he must be purified... gotta get that incense (edited)
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/15/2023 7:44 PM
first word is likely "the" then you go changing letters and guessing more words!
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A long kiss goodnight 6/16/2023 1:55 PM
This gives me cryptogram cipher vibes, I accept the challenge!
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1:56 PM
I already did a character count, but there are a couple cases where I wonder if two symbols are actually different or not
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Exactly some of them are familiar
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:56 AM
so im a reality shifter and was wondering how that would interact with having a tulpa ? i was told this might be the place to ask a question like that
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When you shift realities are you still you in your mind? Or does who you are change drastically?
5:03 AM
I would say that if your mind doesn't change drastically between realities then a Tulpa will also be similarly unaffected
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:05 AM
it varies from person to person , but i think in my sense i dont change ,,,, too much ? since theyre still me , just in a different reality
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so the tulpa[s] would likely be transported with me ?
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Yeah there will be of course some changes mentally as you're forced to adapt to the different reality.
5:12 AM
A Tulpa is created from your own mind and has all the same abilities or disabilities your mind does. If for example you have color blindness, your Tulpa will too. Or if you're autistic, so will the Tulpa. Essentially you share all aspects of the form you reside within and even if your physical form shifts when you reality shift, your mind stays relatively the same. So I would say it's extremely likely that a Tulpa would be transported with you when you shift. If it helps, think of it like the Tulpa is able to reality shift as well
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:14 AM
ah okay , thank you v much ! he'll be sure to keep this in mind
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Now I'm curious, what makes a reality shifter develop an interest in Tulpas?
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:21 AM
well i heard about tulpas far before i learned about shifting for tulpas , i learned about it about 4 or 5 years ago for shifting , just under or about a year ago
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ive got a general interest in the mind and how complex it is , the things its capable of
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its always fascinated me , so hearing ways of it functioning outside of ""normal means"" fascinates me
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Aha fair enough 🙂
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:23 AM
though even then , i was still judgemental around the concept of tulpas through outside influence over time unfortunately but thats why im in this server now , to learn more about it because its been nagging at the back of my mind for a while
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though i guess its also bc of my interest in small subcultures
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Small sub cultures are indeed fascinating. This server is decent as a resource, though you will find the forum to be easier for looking up information
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 6:00 AM
mm noted ! you mean the forum in here or on tulpa.info ?
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I mean the website
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 6:01 AM
ah yeah , it was definitely an interesting read just through the faq
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I've actually been trying to lucid dream (sometimes trying to shift) to interact with my headmates in a dr version of our headspace tbh So in that case i think they'd be outside of my head but i've never been successful so i can't really tell from experience
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:37 PM
wait thats such a good idea though omg
4:38 PM
stim_happy_flaps didnt think id meet any other shifters in here tbh !!
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I think there's one or two more other than me
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:12 PM
so cool !! what kind of drs do u have ?
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Rn it's just the headspace dr since i want to focus on it Sadly i've only ever been successful once in shifting, and i could still feel my cr body As for lucid dreaming i've had similarly weird successes but never a full success
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5:16 PM
What about you?
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:18 PM
im mainly focusing on my kirby dr , but have been wanting to make other drs to shift to like splatoon and sky: children of the light
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as for lucid dreaming ive been ,, i guess trying to do it , but not putting a bunch of effort into it just a lax thing
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i do wanna learn more abt it and really try and get into that tho
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fair enough sky does seem really fun as a dr i need to start playing it again... i stopped a long time ago
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:42 PM
augh yeah it was a rlly big hyperfixation at one point !! but then my brain just didnt like it as much anymore ive been wanting to play but the fomo hits hard :{
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:47 PM
If we ever got into shifting, it would definitely be Genshin Impact, we're that obsessed with it.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:58 PM
oooh cool ! one of aeons friends is rlly into genshin !!
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
If we ever got into shifting, it would definitely be Genshin Impact, we're that obsessed with it.
The fun part is even if you don't believe in shifting you can lucid dream Since that has been scientifically studied But I'm starting to suspect that it doesn't work for everyone, or if it does it doesn't work all the same way Since i've been attempting it for years and the most i've gotten were some weird, super disconnected and dissociated dreams where i did a reality check and then didn't even fully become aware and then woke up (edited)
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 6:57 PM
yeah, I do not believe in reality shifting at all but I've lucid dreamed before
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It's fun, but hard to achieve
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Yeah i'd like to think i'm getting closer since i've been having more moments in dreams where i've done a reality check and gone "huh this is a dream" but it's never led to awareness for me so idkk
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My last ditch effort is probably going to be trying mugwort tea before bed
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Awareness doesn't directly come from knowing you're dreaming, it comes from being aware
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You have to associate waking reality checks with becoming more aware (and, potentially, a plan of action for if you are actually dreaming)
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I’ve found sometimes it’s easier to brute force awareness by having a goal. A lot of times I’ll be in dreams and realize it but not be able to make the dreams lucid. But if I focus on wanting to be able to fly (for example) it’s easier to take the reins
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Without focus, even if you know you're dreaming, 9 times out of 10 you'll just fall back into dream context after wandering for a moment
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 7:01 PM
Very true
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Also your brain is fucking tired!! Usually. I’ve had more lucid dreams napping than when I’m actually sleeping for the night
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Napping is a cheat code for lucid dreaming, for those who can actually nap
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 7:02 PM
I'm currently trying to train myself by every once in a while, going "Is this a dream? If so, I'm going to try to do [X]."
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Napping is a cheat code for most things
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In a bad mood? Nap
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Want to do something but you can’t yet cause it’s not time? Nap
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Best lucid dreaming results at night in my opinion come from "Wake Back To Bed", which is waking up after 5-7 hours of sleep, being as active as you personally can be in that time, and then going back to sleep to cause a vivid dream (which = easier awareness or thinking to reality check)
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 7:03 PM
i always try and not to nap , i dont wanna mess up my already fucked up sleep schedule lmao plus mom wouldnt like it either
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Reisen
Best lucid dreaming results at night in my opinion come from "Wake Back To Bed", which is waking up after 5-7 hours of sleep, being as active as you personally can be in that time, and then going back to sleep to cause a vivid dream (which = easier awareness or thinking to reality check)
Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 7:03 PM
ohhh that sounds really interesting
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Some people can be up for 20 minutes doing whatever and then go back to sleep, while someone like me can only get back to sleep if I don't engage my brain pretty much at all
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So for me, just getting up and going to the bathroom or something is all I can do
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(Though actually, the best WBTB vividness result I ever had was from getting up, going to the kitchen and drinking some orange juice, and then going straight back to bed, lol)
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Lucid dream hack: drink orange juice
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Reisen
Best lucid dreaming results at night in my opinion come from "Wake Back To Bed", which is waking up after 5-7 hours of sleep, being as active as you personally can be in that time, and then going back to sleep to cause a vivid dream (which = easier awareness or thinking to reality check)
I read an entire book on lucid dreaming and it introduced that method Still hasn't worked for me
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Hmm, well, WBTB has the strongest vivid-dream-induction results after simply napping
7:06 PM
But it itself isn't a lucid-dream-induction technique
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No i know but i did everything the book said alongside wbtb and it didn't work
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